Followup: After further testing, the behavior is: First Unread goes to the message if a single page, but goes to top of page containing message if a multi-page thread. This worked correctly in the previous version of the forum software.
John
Welcome to the updated forum
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spiritbear
New Member
For some reason the orange and black combo was easier to scan for interesting posts. Now the colours are so subtle its hard to scan through active forum for interesting posts. I find it harder to read.
I also hangout on this forum - its easier to read the post headings. http://ubnt.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=37
I also hangout on this forum - its easier to read the post headings. http://ubnt.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=37
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westaust55
Moderator
Seeking slight change to forum controls
Is it possible to change the forum settings slightly.
At the bottom left there is the "+Reply to Thread" which puts you into smaller windowed Quick Reply mode
Then at the bottom right of each post there are {"Edit"}, "Reply", "Reply With Quote" and the "MultiQuote" buttons.
Again, the "Reply button puts you into smaller windowed Quick Reply mode.
In the Quick Reply mode we must then click on the "Go Advanced" button if we wish to use some formatting functions such as indentation, "Wrap in code markers" etc.
Can the forum PLEASE be altered such that the "+Reply to Thread" at the bottom left of the thread page takes the user straight into the larger window with the full suite of control features?
Is it possible to change the forum settings slightly.
At the bottom left there is the "+Reply to Thread" which puts you into smaller windowed Quick Reply mode
Then at the bottom right of each post there are {"Edit"}, "Reply", "Reply With Quote" and the "MultiQuote" buttons.
Again, the "Reply button puts you into smaller windowed Quick Reply mode.
In the Quick Reply mode we must then click on the "Go Advanced" button if we wish to use some formatting functions such as indentation, "Wrap in code markers" etc.
Can the forum PLEASE be altered such that the "+Reply to Thread" at the bottom left of the thread page takes the user straight into the larger window with the full suite of control features?
westaust55
Moderator
Another observation.
The PICAXE manuals available via the links in the sticky "Read Me First" thread are well out of date.
Manual 1 and 2 are V6.9 from June 2009 whereas we are currently at V7.7 from May 2011.
Old version: http://www.picaxeforum.co.uk/docs/datasheets/picaxe_manual1.pdf
New version: http://www.rev-ed.co.uk/docs/picaxe_manual1.pdf
So the [highlight]/datasheets/[/highlight] needs removing from the links
The PICAXE manuals available via the links in the sticky "Read Me First" thread are well out of date.
Manual 1 and 2 are V6.9 from June 2009 whereas we are currently at V7.7 from May 2011.
Old version: http://www.picaxeforum.co.uk/docs/datasheets/picaxe_manual1.pdf
New version: http://www.rev-ed.co.uk/docs/picaxe_manual1.pdf
So the [highlight]/datasheets/[/highlight] needs removing from the links
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I'm using IE8.
If I'm NOT logged in and click reply I get the advanced full whistles reply screen (after the login of course).
If I'm already logged in and click reply I get the little one.
Why is that?
(Though, quite frankly, I'm not going to lose (just one "o" in lose) any sleep )
If I'm NOT logged in and click reply I get the advanced full whistles reply screen (after the login of course).
If I'm already logged in and click reply I get the little one.
Why is that?
(Though, quite frankly, I'm not going to lose (just one "o" in lose) any sleep
)
hippy
Ex-Staff (retired)
Please note that we don't write the forum software ourselves so while we can note issues raised, fix things like bringing our links up to date and similar, some of the issues are outside of our direct control.
Some issues may even be outside the forum software author's direct control. If a particular browser does not do what is expected there is often little to be done than try to find a way to make it work with that browser, and if a solution causes a problem in turn with another browser then one can be stuck between a rock and a hard place. It is an ongoing challenge to make everything work as desired with all browsers and requires working on a foundation of shifting sand as new browsers arrive and even older browsers change.
We obviously want all members and others to have their visiting experience expectations met and will seek to do what we can to make it so.
Some issues may even be outside the forum software author's direct control. If a particular browser does not do what is expected there is often little to be done than try to find a way to make it work with that browser, and if a solution causes a problem in turn with another browser then one can be stuck between a rock and a hard place. It is an ongoing challenge to make everything work as desired with all browsers and requires working on a foundation of shifting sand as new browsers arrive and even older browsers change.
We obviously want all members and others to have their visiting experience expectations met and will seek to do what we can to make it so.
westaust55
Moderator
I find the same situation as Dippy using FireFox 5.0.
If I log out then use the "+ Reply to Thread" button, after the log in requirement, I get the full sized window and the full compliment of editing options.
Yes hippy, I recognise that the forum software (VBulletin) is written by others. My though/hope is that maybe the startup scheme for a new post may include options that Rev Ed can select how a post window is initialised.
If I log out then use the "+ Reply to Thread" button, after the log in requirement, I get the full sized window and the full compliment of editing options.
Yes hippy, I recognise that the forum software (VBulletin) is written by others. My though/hope is that maybe the startup scheme for a new post may include options that Rev Ed can select how a post window is initialised.
allison1947
New Member
As person with reduced vision I find the light blue text difficult to read on the main page
Actual posts are fine.
Is it possible to use a colour combination with more contrast.
Actual posts are fine.
Is it possible to use a colour combination with more contrast.
I too find it a bit too pale to easily read. I realize that a web designer took some time to select a cheery and esthetically pleasing set of colors to make the place look nice, but I read purely for content, (as I'm sure many techies do,) and anything that makes reading even slightly more difficult for me isn't greatly welcomed. I found the old color combination to be a bit harsh, but easy to read.
We have looked into this and this behaviour is by design by the vBulletin forum authors when you are logged in and your browser supports AJAX. The quick reply box is then generated 'inline', which basically means there is no browser refresh to get to the reply entry screen which can have considerable speed advantages, particularly on mobile devices etc. Clicking 'Go advanced' always involves a full browser page refresh where you are taken off to a completely new web page, the full reply page, and is therefore considerably slower. Turning this inline reply feature off would mean this much slower option is compulsory for everyone, which we are not keen to do. However we'll look further into the options.Is it possible to change the forum settings slightly.
At the bottom left there is the "+Reply to Thread" which puts you into smaller windowed Quick Reply mode
Then at the bottom right of each post there are {"Edit"}, "Reply", "Reply With Quote" and the "MultiQuote" buttons.
Again, the "Reply button puts you into smaller windowed Quick Reply mode.
In the Quick Reply mode we must then click on the "Go Advanced" button if we wish to use some formatting functions such as indentation, "Wrap in code markers" etc.
Can the forum PLEASE be altered such that the "+Reply to Thread" at the bottom left of the thread page takes the user straight into the larger window with the full suite of control features?
westaust55
Moderator
@Technical,
Thanks for the situation update - understand what you are saying.
Using both desktop and mobile devices for access these days myself.
Thanks for the situation update - understand what you are saying.
Using both desktop and mobile devices for access these days myself.
Andrés Briano
Member
In my opinion, this is an improvement over the old forum. Great work!
spiritbear
New Member
Ive previously mentioned the difficulty of reading the list of posts and current posts. I have trouble reading the light blue, as now do others. A higher contrast colour combo would be better. No one seems to have responded to this or the other posters, maybe its being discussed, but it seems typical that the users who actually use the forum are never consulted over the changes or options. There seems to be countless examples of usability failures on websites ever since the Internet was born. Jacob Neilsen and his useit site explains this for ever, but hey its "Usability Week 2011" right now, with courses that cover:
" how to balance the tension between designing a page that:
* Looks good (visual design aesthetics)
* Feels good (easy to use; high usability)
* Converts well (strong KPI score) ..."
The next one starts in NYC: http://www.nngroup.com/events/tutorials/web_design.html
hint-hint ...
" how to balance the tension between designing a page that:
* Looks good (visual design aesthetics)
* Feels good (easy to use; high usability)
* Converts well (strong KPI score) ..."
The next one starts in NYC: http://www.nngroup.com/events/tutorials/web_design.html
hint-hint ...
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techElder
Well-known member
Technical has responded several times in this thread. That's commendable. The forum example that you referenced is almost exactly like this new forum format except that RevEd has made the listings in BOLD blue. The posts in both places are black on white, so I don't see how you can get much better contrast than that.
Hey, let these guys build/respond to PICAXE stuff. The damn forum is just fine, but I'm sure that tweaks will happen over time.
Hey, let these guys build/respond to PICAXE stuff. The damn forum is just fine, but I'm sure that tweaks will happen over time.
We listen to all feedback and will consider any requests - as already stated in post #1 we will be tweaking the system as required over the next few weeks. We will look into the possibility of using a darker blue, unread posts are already quite dark (as they are bold) so we assume that people are mainly talking about the 'already read' thread titles (which are currently light blue).
I'll go along with that TexCH.
I reckon this is clearer than many other Forums... even if it DID take me 5 minutes to find the 'Log Out' button first time around.
I see so many sites where 8pt text is used for the link button; just check out www.bt.yahoo.com.
Those ones drive me nuts; all very trendy but very annoying.
This forum only has a couple of 8pt text links, so I'm not going to lose sleep.
And anything new causes some upset.
I just wish the smilies were clearer. I have to borrow the neighbour's spectacles to see whether someone is smiling.
Very arty but too pastel. Anyway, as I never smile I'll never need them!
Maybe the authors could include a 'lose' vs 'loose' filter. (Tha's a Big Grin apparently).
Anyway, well done all. And let's get back to the important task of blowing up MOSFETs.
I reckon this is clearer than many other Forums... even if it DID take me 5 minutes to find the 'Log Out' button first time around.
I see so many sites where 8pt text is used for the link button; just check out www.bt.yahoo.com.
Those ones drive me nuts; all very trendy but very annoying.
This forum only has a couple of 8pt text links, so I'm not going to lose sleep.
And anything new causes some upset.
I just wish the smilies were clearer. I have to borrow the neighbour's spectacles to see whether someone is smiling.
Very arty but too pastel. Anyway, as I never smile I'll never need them!
Maybe the authors could include a 'lose' vs 'loose' filter.
(Tha's a Big Grin apparently).Anyway, well done all. And let's get back to the important task of blowing up MOSFETs.
While it's certainly not necessary for Rev. Ed. to have someone respond to every comment, (I'm surprised and pleased when they do reply,) if they didn't want any feedback on the new forum changes they wouldn't have posted this open thread on the topic. I'd suggest all PICAXE users make whatever comments regarding the changes that they wish to and think would be helpful. Rev. Ed. can do whatever they wish with them. But clearly, stifling comment on the changes is detrimental to the site and to Rev. Ed's. goal of an attractive and effective web site.
Andrew Cowan
Senior Member
Strange - mine all all still there...
westaust55
Moderator
Are you looking under NOTIFICATIONS / Inbox in the top right corner when logged in.
All my messages are there.
westaust55
Moderator
When I accidently clicked the submit twice in succession a couple of days ago, I was presented with a message indicating I was about to do a "Double Post" and could back out / divert without a problem.
Better than the old version of the forum where it allowed the second post and I then had to delete the duplicate.
I noticed a double post by JaguarJoe here http://www.picaxeforum.co.uk/showthread.php?18923-Auto-level-adjuster&p=176566#post176566
so it's still an issue.
Why not get the webcode writers to disable the Post Reply button immediately after the first click - that's what many people do when writing Visualxxxx code.
I don't suppose we could have a separate dropdown for the Manuals 1,2 and 3 like we used to have?
Or do we? I can't find it so if someone could let me know where it is I'd be grateful.
so it's still an issue.
Why not get the webcode writers to disable the Post Reply button immediately after the first click - that's what many people do when writing Visualxxxx code.
I don't suppose we could have a separate dropdown for the Manuals 1,2 and 3 like we used to have?
Or do we? I can't find it so if someone could let me know where it is I'd be grateful.
Yes. No matter how I get to Private Messages, there aren't any.
Maybe technical can take a look for me.
westaust55
Moderator
Attached is what I see when I deliberately try to double click on the Post Quick Reply button.
I see the same under Win XP and Win 7 with Mozilla FIrefox 5
EDIT: and although it may be a slight inconvenience, if a double post does occur (I have not managed one since the new forum came on line) then
by going into EDIT mode for the duplicate post there is the facility to duplicate (but not the first post of a thread - where there should not be a need to)
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Another double post in this thread: http://www.picaxeforum.co.uk/showthread.php?18963-stereo-jack-to-breadboard
westaust55
Moderator
Not quite in the same category.
Almost duplicate but the second post was 1 minute later and an edit had taken place as the photo is not there (and neither post subsequently edited) so not exactly the same content thus would pass the "5 minute rule" that I see.
I jumped into the forum and clicked on a schematic pdf, which downloaded, I took a look at and attempted to comment on. The log-in screen popped up and I logged in, but then went into never never land at the "thank you for logging in" screen.
I can avoid this by first logging in, then looking around, but tend not to log in unless (and until) I wish to comment, so it would be nice to have this order of events functional.
Also, I had to look through two pages of threads in order to dig up this one to comment on the new upgrade. I can see how it could be still further down the scroll when someone wanted to point out a bug in the new code. Perhaps it could be moved over to "Blogs" so it wouldn't get buried.
I can avoid this by first logging in, then looking around, but tend not to log in unless (and until) I wish to comment, so it would be nice to have this order of events functional.
Also, I had to look through two pages of threads in order to dig up this one to comment on the new upgrade. I can see how it could be still further down the scroll when someone wanted to point out a bug in the new code. Perhaps it could be moved over to "Blogs" so it wouldn't get buried.
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westaust55
Moderator
This is where the much maligned search function can help, particularly if you have an idea of the subject and can think of a relatively unique word.
Using the word "updated" on a titles only search came up with just 9 hits and second from the top was this thread.
Another double post: http://www.picaxeforum.co.uk/showthread.php?19070-Nap-like-function-on-a-20X2