rtttl sound (ringtone) files - does not work via macaxepad (?)

[PcAx anothermarc]

i try to create rtttl files but do not succeed ...
any hint is highly appreciated!


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MY TRIES TO CREATE RTTTL FILES
via
picaxe's macaxepad's "ringtone wizard"

using .aiff, .wav, .mp3 files
resulted in ...

error messages:
"the ring tone file does not appears to contain a valid ringtone"

... or codes such as ...

... a music track's -
tune 0,14,($05,$07,$05,$07,$02,$04,$05,$09,$02,$02,$05,$05,$09,$05,$09,$05,$09,$0B,$04,$07,$0B,$04,$09,$00,$02,$0B,$02,$09,$09,$00,$02,$02,$04,$07,$09,$00,$04,$09,$00,$00)

... a bird's twittering sound -
tune 0,14,($09,$00)

... a speech file's:
tune 0,14,($05,$02,$00,$00,$00,$00,$02,$0B,$04,$05,$0B,$05,$05,$09,$07,$07,$07,$02,$00,$02,$09,$07,$0B,$04,$0B,$0B,$00,$02)


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TRYING TO PLAY THEM DID NOT WORK

i used an online emulator to listen to the files
before i upload them to a picaxe chip

... e.g. via
http://merwin.bespin.org/t4aphp/index.php



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... DIFFERENT THAN COMMON RTTTL FORMAT ?

my files do not seem to refer to a common rtttl syntax/grammar
(as descriibed in e.g.
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=169460&seqNum=1
and following pages ....)

i compared them to other rtttl files downloaded from the internet
(e.g.
Amazing:d=4,o=5,b=100:8c,8f,2f,8a,8g,8f,2a,8a,8g,2f,d,2c,8c,8f,2f,8a,8g,8f,2a,8g,8a,2c.6)
:
there's no ....

- ":" divider in between the name or "melody default" or "melody " parts
- indicator for "default - duration, -octave, -tempo" within the "melody default" part
- just a "$" + number instead of duration, pitch, octave settings

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WHAT AM I DOING WRONG
or what do i need to change?

i already tried a mac-based rtttl converter ("soundconverter")
& receive error messages with every try

the manual tells me
"... there is no practical way to convert raw audio
to midi as the audio may contain things other than pure notes ... "

unfortunately i can not write in musical notation
& do not know how to play any instrument ...

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[hippy]

In the http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=169460&seqNum=1 article there is an example for Beethoven's Fifth Symphony ...

fifth:d=4,o=5,b=63:8P,8G5,8G5,8G5,2D#5

That is the text of an RTTTL ring tone and text similar to that is what has to be stored in the RTTTL file. When the file is imported via the PICAXE Ring Tone Wizard it will then show something like the following which can then be copied into your PICAXE program ...

' fifth
tune C.0,13,($67,$67,$67,$E3)

When you run the PICAXE program with a piezo connected to pin C.0 you should hear the opening bar of the Fifth.

To import an RTTTL file you have to have a valid RTTTL file with the correct format and MP3, AIFF, WAV and other raw audio files will not have that correct formatting. An RTTTL file is what you will need in order to use the Ring Tone wizard.

The Ring Tone wizard is intended to import ready written RTTTL files but it is possible to create such files yourself using just a text editor or music composition applications though it is unlikely you will find any application which can convert from audio files to RTTTL.

Unless you can find ready written RTTTL files, get someone else to create them for you, creating those files will require some understanding of musical notation.

 

[PcAx anothermarc]

thanks a lot, hippy!

my mistake was that i did assume "ring tone wizard"
converts .mp3 (.was, aif, ...) files into rtttl format;

yes, as for the way rtttl files are created:
the best/most convenient way appears to be based on musical notation -
thanks, again, for the hint.

......
audacity forum's gale andrews hinted me towards
using a sound-to-midi, midi-to-rtttl solution
on http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=59586
... another very helpful approach if one has a good knowledge
of musical matters and the specific settings.
...

btw.:
i said that "soundconverter" did not work for me -
it might if i use midi files for rtttl conversions ...
so again:
my tries might not have worked because of my lack of knowledge
in reference to this format.