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Dippy

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Hello.
So basically you are asking us to do sections 4, 5 and 6 for you?
A few of us here write C , but I'm afraid I can't / won't do your homework for you , sorry.
PICAXE is BASIC.

Wouldn't they help you on the All About Circuits Forum? :rolleyes:
 
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nick12ab

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A code approach will be better as it will allow you to use more of the hardware than a flowchart and additionally makes you look smarter than if you use a flowchart. Command help is in PICAXE Manual 2.

Following list of things starting on page 2, these are the BASIC commands usually involved:
  1. settimer, if
  2. readadc
  3. pwmout,pwmduty
  4. No code involved, but use switching regulator unless 5v current draw is tiny
  5. readadc
  6. readadc
  7. No code involved
Also looking at the spec, it assumes MPLAB is used so you may not be able to use PICAXE. Apparently, you have to write some 'credible' C code so the PICAXE Basic coding may mean you lose marks and you may not get them without C code even if your project works better than anyone elses.

have issues with flowcahrts
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Your carts will flow better if you oil them regularly and possibly attach floats to them if you are trying to get them to flow down a river.
 
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nick12ab

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Seeing Dippy's post which was posted only seconds before mine...
  • it may be classed as cheating and wouldn't go down well with the university
  • You need to be asking this in a PIC forum and not the PICAXE forum since the software and programming aspects are completely different - but your project is doable on a PICAXE - you could even add a LCD and a datalogger for the light usage and levels (probably) on the same PICAXE as well!
 
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hippy

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Given the closeness of the deadline it would help others to help you if you could explain the nature of the help you need.

Have you completed parts 2 and 3 of the assignment ( operational specification and circuit design); this is what part 4 ( software architecture) and then part 5 ( software design) would normally derive from.

The issue of helping with coursework is always a contentious issue and I doubt anyone would want to give you a 'free pass', do the work for you when others are being assessed on their own merits, but I am sure people will help point you in the right direction where that help wouldn't give an unfair advantage or correspondingly doesn't disadvantage others who haven't sought help.
 
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manuka

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Agreed- treat this Forum as a helpful resource rather than an assignment bank,& even then naturally give credit!

Sigh-a sobering aspect to this module is that it arises from a Bristol institution (Uni. of the West of England),who are "just along the road" from Rev. Ed in Bath.The very nature of a lighting quest means blistering performance is not essential,so PICAXE based approaches would be near ideal. In the 24 hours allocated most capable students could then even rustle up PICAXE hardware to MAKE a working model as well! This is what PICAXE productivity is all about of course.

The nature of the course is unknown,but as a hands on academic I'd NOT be happy getting students to develop a proof-of-principle design WITHOUT such working hardware. All manner of real world issues may only become apparent when such setups are "on the table". In spite of a CAD age this is a major reason why architects still create cardboard constructions for their cussed clients, & (more soberingly) why military missions may flounder if directed by armchair generals who are ignorant of realities their troops actually face. Mud? Barbed wire? Dud shells? The tragic 1916 lessons of the Somme should never be forgotten...

THOUGHT: As you can select your micro, perhaps discuss this ahead of time with the course tutor, even though coding in "C" was expected.Ah-which C flavour ? I've been thru' similar academic flack however here in NZ,with colleagues thinking PICAXEs make it too easy, and you may have an uphill quest... Perhaps inform them about Rev.Ed's (rumoured!) Friday "Happy Hours" - and extensive recession beating global exports. Stan
 
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dbatra

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Me ready to pay if someone is willing to help me out as I cant let this one slip and do my year again
 
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dbatra

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hippy said:
Given the closeness of the deadline it would help others to help you if you could explain the nature of the help you need.

Have you completed parts 2 and 3 of the assignment ( operational specification and circuit design); this is what part 4 ( software architecture) and then part 5 ( software design) would normally derive from.

The issue of helping with coursework is always a contentious issue and I doubt anyone would want to give you a 'free pass', do the work for you when others are being assessed on their own merits, but I am sure people will help point you in the right direction where that help wouldn't give an unfair advantage or correspondingly doesn't disadvantage others who haven't sought help.
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I dont care what others get, cba to care about everyone :rolleyes:
 
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dbatra

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Dippy said:
Hello.
So basically you are asking us to do sections 4, 5 and 6 for you?
A few of us here write C , but I'm afraid I can't / won't do your homework for you , sorry.
PICAXE is BASIC.

Wouldn't they help you on the All About Circuits Forum? :rolleyes:
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Yeah tried All about circuits aswell, got more replies here than it did there
 
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MartinM57

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I fear you will not get many more from here either - you seem to have a cavalier and self-opinionated attitude to passing your coursework (which you must have had for some time given that the submission date is next week, but you appear to have done almost nothing) and if offering to pay someone to do it for you and admitting to not caring about cheating as long as you don't get found out is the norm for undergraduates these days then .... sigh..

I'm out (not that I was ever in) and I don't actually wish you good luck either. Sorry :(
 
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Jamster

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dbatra said:
Me ready to pay if someone is willing to help me out as I cant let this one slip and do my year again
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You wont get very far in life if you just pay people; you wont learn anything, it wont be quite so easy to get a job, and then slowly the money to pay people will runout. Where does that leave you?

If you put the effort in now, you get results later.

So I have to also say I am not willing to help. Sorry.

Jamster
 
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nick12ab

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dbatra said:
Me ready to pay if someone is willing to help me out as I cant let this one slip and do my year again
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Someone offered me money to design their PCB for their GCSE project but I decided to decline it as IT WOULD HAVE COUNTED AS CHEATING AND THEY'D BE DISQUALIFIED!!!
Someone should get a qualification because they have the knowledge and not because they have money!

Like Jamster said, you won't get very far if you pay people to do stuff for you. Not only would it be harder to get a job, but it will be almost impossible to retain it!
 
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nick12ab

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Important information

dbatra read this very carefully as it is potentially vital to your future
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nick12ab said:
it may be classed as cheating and wouldn't go down well with the university
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dbatra said:
Only if they know it :cool:
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IT WOULD HAVE COUNTED AS CHEATING AND THEY'D BE DISQUALIFIED!!!
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The person who wanted to pay me would have had more chance of being undetected if I went through with it than you have if me (or someone else) takes up your offer.
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The reason is because he asked me in person and you're asking on a popular internet forum directly related to the microcontroller system you want to use and if your tutor(s)/teacher(s) don't find this thread, the exam board will when they do their anti-plagiarism search on the internet as it only takes a few days for something to get cached by Google but a lot longer for the exam board to do their marking. When they do, you'll get disqualified. Your nickname, the fact that you live a sensible location away from the university (Cardiff) and other details the forum administrators may hand over to the university will be enough to identify you. ADDED: I think 'convicted' is a better term.

In addition, you may not be allowed to take part in any similar course and you'll lose lots of employment potential. Even worse, you could get disqualified from your other courses as well (assuming you're taking more than one course).

You pay someone else to do it and you could be dooming yourself. Your tutor probably gave a long depressing lecture about cheating at the beginning of your course.

Most of the penalties described here applied to my GCSEs so penalties in university may be much greater!
[HR][/HR]If the university are OK with you getting some online help, the list given by me in post 3 of what commands you will need to do certain things will be useful.

You'll probably have to attribute any forum members who give you information that you use in the provided box on that form that you get at the end of the assignment.
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Other members will probably have scarier things to say than what I've said.
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srnet

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nick12ab said:
you live a sensible location away from the university (Cardiff)
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Gosh thats where I live, glad to know I live somewhere sensible.

I used to cylce through the UWE when I was contracting in Bristol, I used to reckon the majority of students had never been taught to cross roads, judging by the way they used to walk around concentrating on iPods or mobiles rather than looking out for traffic. Althought that probabbly a malaise affecting a lot of people these days.

This is not off topic, I bought my folding bike (Brompton of course) to use on the train (from Cardiff) at the bike shop behind Bath station, and Bath is where REd Ed are.
 
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nick12ab

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srnet said:
Gosh thats where I live, glad to know I live somewhere sensible.
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I must have chosen the wrong words for what I said - I'm not saying whether any location is sensible or not sensible, but that it's near enough to Bristol for someone to want to go there. Just realized that the distance doesn't matter at all as the university knows where he lives so it would be easier for the university to identify him if he lived further away since less people will be coming from further away.
 
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srnet

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One suspects there are not many people from Cardiff who have to hand in that particular assignment on that particular date.
 
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manuka

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dbatra: For heavens sake! You've not said what your course is, but go & have a chat ahead of time with your tutor for insights.Discuss that PICAXE option!.It's been my experience that - bless their hearts- diverse foreign academics have no knowledge of them...

FWIW this sort of 1:1 approach can be extremely beneficial- teaching staff are human & usually far prefer personal contact anyway. A sea of classroom faces,blindly taking down scribbled notes,is often torture to many educators. But expect a queue -if you are totally lost then others will probably be as well.

The real world will throw many deadline problems at you like this,often with MUCH tighter time frames & serious con$equence$ if there's a failure to deliver. If you're all at sea then do such footwork NOW-even take a trip along to Rev.Ed in Bath!
Stan.(~40 years at the chalkface)
 
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dbatra

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Could you please close the thread admin, no use chattin to a bunch of jobless "ENGINEERS" if any out there
 
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Dippy

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Please don't be bitter dbatra. We simply cannot do coursework for you. It would be totally unfair.

BTW: There are people here who know a hundred times more than you about electronics and computing.
And your brief specified C.
If you had actually checked after you got the reply on the "All About Circuits" Forum then you would have seen that PICAXE is BASIC.

FYI: I have a degree and MSc in Applied Physics and Electronics. I then specialised in Nuclear Physics and computing after that. I have approx 20 years experience in electronics design and code writing. CAD CODE and PHYSICs. And you?
I never got others to do my homework for me. And yes, I've made cockups.

And I'm not jobless btw.
I have just left a Company designing and testing electronic power systems for electric vehicles for car Manufs that you will have heard of - and next week join a bigger company doing a similar thing.
Under a different name, I also contribute to 2 other Forums at a higher level.
And, just like here, those other Forums are reluctant to do people's college/uni/school work for them.
I daresay there are people on the "All About Circuits" Forum who could have done your paper - did they?

My 30 mins per day (coffee breaks) on this Forum are to:- a) add pointers to people prepared to learn , b) be cheeky to Stan , c) Zap anyone being rude d) Bang on about reading data sheets and learning , and, d) have a laugh.


Well, I guess we won't be hearing much from you after this , so I wish you the best of luck with your course .
And I'm glad no-one has reported your posts to the faculty at your Uni.


PS. If you had been clever you would have broken down your requests in your brief and posted questions in chunks.
Then people would have answered them enthusiastically.
But there we go...
 
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papaof2

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dbatra said:
Could you please close the thread admin, no use chattin to a bunch of jobless "ENGINEERS" if any out there
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I've never had the title of engineer, I've just been the guy that solves problems. Unlike some people, I did the class work, continued to learn what I needed to know as technology changed, and retired at 55. Since then, I completed an Information Systems degree in 2002 to refresh my skills and have been recruited for several consulting assignments. I'm currently "jobless" by choice - although I am using a friend's ideas (and money) to build a prototype semi-autonomous guidance system with potential security / law enforcement / military applications.

You're probably right: this bunch of jobless engineers can't help you.

John
 
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srnet

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Dippy said:
I never got others to do my homework for me. And yes, I've made cockups.
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Ooooo, the more serious the cockup the more you learn.

But we live in a different age, 'advice' on just about any topic is now so readily available at the click of a Google, that geniune problem solving and spending more than 5 minutes on a problem seems to have diminished. So much easier to get someone else to solve your problesm for you, and for free.

I recall the plentiful shelves of the blue Nat Semi databooks (getting old, were the Texas ones red ?) if you had a problem, the answer was usually in there for you to find.

Yes, I know I sound like Victor Meldrew.
 
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morrismarine

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As a student i find this area interesting, I must say from an electronics point of view my college's libaray is shocking but it does have enough of the basics that will never change however for reports/investigations a huge amount of it is sourced digitaly. With this in mind i do make use of forums generally i try either for very vague ideas which i then can go of and refine or the alternative is to produce a detailed account of where your at, and ask for critical views. Both work well and i feel find a reasonable balance between someone telling you the answer and wasting a huge amount of time with a simple problem.

Or what is more likey that someone will know a more effective way to achieve the particular result, with this in mind over the next few months look out for my project, and i may even point some of my classmates over here too just to clutter up the place a bit :)
 
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dbatra

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Dippy said:
FYI: I have a degree and MSc in Applied Physics and Electronics. I then specialised in Nuclear Physics and computing after that. I have approx 20 years experience in electronics design and code writing. CAD CODE and PHYSICs. And you?
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How old are you 70? still having to work at this age well thats how successful you are
 
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womai

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dbatra, so let me get this straight, you look for and freely admit to cheating whenever you can since (as you admitted yourself) your technical knowledge is weak (too weak to do your own assignments). Then you put down people who HAVE completed their education through own effort and who CAN do such work. Yet nevertheless you seem to pursue a technical degree. I would recommend you either put in some effort of your own (doing your assignments, not looking for somebody to do it for you), or change your line of study if you can't be bothered doing your own work. Believe me, the job market is sufficiently competitive today that lack of skills and knowledge will not go undetected or unpunished for very long in the real world, even if you do succeed in cheating your way to a degree. You may also want to work a bit on your communication and people skills - insulting the very person you want to get help from isn't a very promising approach.
 
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manuka

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Dbatra-you'll indeed come off 2nd best lambasting our Dippy with such Argumentum Ad Hominem. Far from being 70, I have it on good authority that he's barely out of short pants,and irksome ID requests (when he's out partying) have meant he's now even stooped to buying his own night club. At this rate he'll be down to his last 50 million quid, and may have to sell one of his private jets. Can't life be REALLY tiresome at times...
 
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KingsJester89

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dbatra, as a fellow student I can understand where you're coming from, I too have an upcoming deadline. A 5000 word essay to be submitted in 10 days. But I would NEVER pass someone elses work off as my own. If you spent the time it took to ask your question on this fourm (and insult those who took the time to answer you), actually working on your project, you'd be a lot closer to finishing then you are now. Trust me, as a person who previosly didn't put the effort in, if you continue this attitude towards education you may as well learn the following phrase "would you like fries with that?".
 
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lbenson

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Well, OP has shown himself to be not only a willing cheater, but a tiresome troll.

No soup for you. NEXT!
 
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womai

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As I keep telling anybody who will listen, don't study engineering or anything science related unless you

(1) really like it, and
(2) are willing to work hard
 
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womai

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Just looked up dbatra's posts on allaboutcircuits (was easy to find - as expected = since he obviously has an aversion to working and thinking - he used the same alias there :)

If you want to smile a bit, look up his public profile - on the right you'll find:

[h=4]Friends[/h] dbatra has not made any friends yet


Wonder why?



Also interesting - the work assigment says MPLAB should be used, from the posts on allaboutcircuits he obviously has no idea what MPLAB is - yet just entering that term in Google (not hard to do, especially for a youngster who presumably has grown up with the internet!) - the top 6 results bring you right to the correct place. Can only wish him luck flipping burgers...
 
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Dippy

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Haha, thanks for support.
Slightly out of short pants but 70 is still a quarter of a century away :)
Mind you , I am actually wearing shorts right now as I've had the week off.

Interesting...
https://fbe6.uwe.ac.uk/public/resitwork/resitworkModule.asp?ModuleCode=UFME69-20-2


On a slightly different subject; there was a discussion on BBC Radio4 last night where they were interviewing the ex-Chairman of GSK (GlaxoSmithKline). He said that one of the reasons that they were moving research partly out of UK was the lack of quality of graduates and that lack of Gov funding wasn't attracting the higher-quality overseas graduates. Read into that what you will ...


Maybe when (if) the OP graduates he'll ask someone else to go to the Graduation ceremony for him? :)
 
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srnet

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Dippy said:
On a slightly different subject; there was a discussion on BBC Radio4 last night where they were interviewing the ex-Chairman of GSK (GlaxoSmithKline). He said that one of the reasons that they were moving research partly out of UK was the lack of quality of graduates and that lack of Gov funding wasn't attracting the higher-quality overseas graduates. Read into that what you will ...
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Thats nothing new I am afraid, I used to be Senior Eng at an Electronics manufacturing company, back in the 1980s. The company had a graduate 'program' but on the whole whilst the graduates had piles of theoretical knowledge, in the practical sense they were fresh out of School, very limited practical skills to be able to build a bit of test equipment for instance. The exceptions were the Poly graduates, there were useful and ready to go, but then theirs was a 4 year course with a year in the middle doing a real job.

I recall on one ocaision when I started my first electronics job (repairing microprocessor control boards) and I had to explain to the Engineer above me (an Electronics graduate) what a Tri-State output pin was.
 
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Jamster

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Currently I am just starting my GCSEs and I rekon that I could do that asignment (in PICAXE basic) because I tried hard to learn about electronics and programming when I was young, and out of trying hard at programming at an early age I can now learn most programming languages (for PC) to a good standard within a couple of days. I have been building circuits since I was ~4 and programming since ~11. It isnt't be to late for you to try, if you put the effort in to your work you can still succeed but sitting on the forum insulting people wil not help.

Just sit down and look up the things mentioned in post 2 in Google (something like "how to do X on a PIC") and then try to piece something together. I don't know whether the C language will tell you where the errors are but if you have something to show that you tried you will a) be able to get help to improve it and b) have something to at least show you tried if you can't get it to work. Currently you have nothing from what I can tell, and it is pretty obvious that no one is going to help unless you try.

ADDED: It always amazes me how neat my solding is in comparason to everyone else in DT classes just because I have experience. I have seen people rip the track from the PCB with a soldering iron which was quite difficult to repair when they turned to me asking why it wasn't working...
 
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Dippy

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Well done Jamster. I've got a couple of proto boards that need soldering.:)

Compilers will obv tell you of syntax errors but (equally obv) not whether your programme is functionally correct.
I'm sure you will find that once get the flow/construction correct that simply find it's a matter of translating into whatever language you choose. Obviously there are certain fancy techniques (and limitations) in any language but you get my drift.
Maybe this is often why good programmers are also good chess players?

I just wish people wouldn't think of C as some mystical language that requires Einsteinian god-like intelligence to use.
I use it (Hi-Tech) at work, but I have to say, I'm not a fan of C. I won't expand. But it's a 'standard' which you'll have to learn if you want a career.
I'd suggest to any budding codester that they download a demo version and have a play. I think there is (was?) a free/discounted wotsit from Microchip for students.
Stan mentioned coffee in another thread. Sounds a good idea...
 
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westaust55

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I see the OP has now removed the content of Post 1 and the attached "evidence" (ie copy of project requirements).

For reference it is attached here - if only so the past posts make some sense.
 

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manuka

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Aside from tedious course related issues,UWE have a good range of current vacancies- none of them seemingly burger flipping (although Department Heads many have to flip funding). There's even a p/time Research Associate position that looks open to mischievous interpretation! Isn't the Bristol region experiencing the UK recession?
 
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dbatra

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westaust55 said:
I see the OP has now removed the content of Post 1 and the attached "evidence" (ie copy of project requirements).

For reference it is attached here - if only so the past posts make some sense.
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Yeah its better to remove it than having anotehr jobless "ENGINEER" trying to work hard to ruin your uni degree :)
 
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